EDSer Wants In Vitro Fertilization; Raises Ethics Debate on BBC Radio
Listen to this radio show discussing the pros & cons of In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) for EDSers.
(Click on the title above to listen.)
Rosemary has EDS & wants assisted conception. Rosemary herself is willing to take the risks, whatever the potential consequences.
Joan Bakewell, who also has EDS, reports on this topic. The following is her article:
“Last month I went to London to record ‘Inside The Ethics Committee‘ for Radio 4, hosted by Joan Bakewell. It was as ever a vomit themed and fascinating experience – I’m told ‘Can I have a vomit bowl just in case please’ is one of the more unusual studio requests!
As I’ve already been asked, I’d like to clarify – I’m not the case study Rosemary and I’m not pregnant! However, Rosemary and I are almost the same age and we both have EDS – this meant I felt a huge sense of responsibility to Rosemary when we were making the programme – I didn’t necessarily think the decisions Rosemary was making were always the decisions I would make for myself but I did feel it was vital to defend her right to make those decisions for herself, whatever they might be.
The subject of assisted conception, parenting and disability is obviously complex and sensitive, but I hadn’t expected this to be the most challenging media recording I’d ever done…which is entirely my own fault for not thinking things through before I say yes to them! I am glad I said yes without thinking though as it was also one of the most constructive and interesting discussions I’ve ever participated in – having an all female panel and host definitely helped that. There was simply no-one looking for any kind of conflict but to explore with each other the different issues and potential consequences.
It was also fascinating to consider Rosemary’s case from within a social model perspective – I talked to lots of disabled people to get their perspectives before hand, but after much deliberation and many lengthy conversations we all agreed that it simply wasn’t possible to fully apply the social model (the theory that disability is caused by an inaccessible world rather than an inherent medical model impairment) to Rosemary’s situation because she has some life threatening medical issues that simply won’t work within a social model framework.The social model applied in some places very effectively and up to a certain point which always ended in ‘but there are no barriers we can remove to ensure her participation without actually killing her’ and frankly most of us were unsure that was a terribly social model solution to the situation..
As so many people use this blog as a place to find information about Ehlers Danlos Syndrome I think its really important to point out that for most women with EDS pregnancy does not present the same level of risk as it does to Rosemary due to her iatrogenic* complications.There is lots of helpful information about HMS or EDS and pregnancy on the Hypermobility Syndromes Association website.
I’m really looking forward to hearing the finished debate – that’s totally different from participating in it! I hope the intricacies we all considered come across and demonstrate just what a difficult job ethics committees in these situations do…and makes the various ethics committees realise that if they are assessing ethics related to disability in relation to clinical decisions that they should never do so without including disabled people as part of that ethical panel.
When listening please bear in mind that Rosemary is a real person, the discussion is about her real experiences and challenges and please be mindful in any comments that Rosemary herself may read what you are saying.
Inside The Ethics Committee airs Thursday 8th August on BBC Radio 4 at 9am. It’ll be repeated and available afterwards on iplayer – I’m not sure how long the transcript versions take but all the older episodes have transcripts available so they will appear. For those outside the UK who wish to listen it might be worth contacting Radio 4 to ask if they have any plans to put the series onto the World Service.”
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